Director Robert M. Young, at 71 years old, began his career as
a documentary filmmaker camping in igloos, swimming with sharks
and living with Bushmen. Today, Young has established himself
as one of America's most diverse independent filmmakers. His film
projects have included The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez, Alambrista,
Dominick and Eugene, among many others. We spoke with Young
before his visit to Albuquerque for the premier of his latest
film, Caught. Based on an Eddie Pomerantz book, the film
deals with a young drifter who touches and torments his way into
the lives of a young married couple. The film stars Edward James
Olmos, Maria Conchita Alonso along with newcomers Arie Verveen
and Steven Schub.
I hear that this film has taken quite a chunk of time to make.
Why is that?
The whole process took about 24 years. The story came to my attention
when I was teaching at Yale in the late '60s. In 1972 we put an
ad in the New York Times after I optioned the book (In
to It by Eddie Pomerantz) that said "soon to be a major
motion picture." Looking back on it, it's really funny that
we were that naive and that out of touch. We saw other people
doing it. I don't know what we expected. I guess we were convinced
a big investor would call us up and ask how to get involved. The
only people who called us up were our friends.
What was it that prompted you to actually make the film?
Sometimes the process was like a dead fish that I wished would
go away. We'd work on it for a few years and then abandon it.
Sometimes it's so difficult to get people to help you make a film
when they don't necessarily see it as you do. At one point, I
decided I simply had to make it and that I couldn't abide by other
people's rules and judgments. I'm actually glad it took so long
to make the film, because now it actually feels right.
Why did you choose to cast two Latinos in these roles which
don't necessarily have anything to say about their particular
culture?
First of all, the country's changing. Originally the story had
centered around Anglos. It takes place in New York in a place
called Washington Heights. That area is now Hispanic. And a lot
of things have changed in America since the story was first written.
I think it's fresher and more interesting. And also, isn't it
about time that someone casts Hispanics in roles where the primary
ideal isn't being Hispanic? They are just dysfunctional Americans
like everybody else.
That's a very good point. Do you think you will set some kind
of precedent in regards to typecasting?
Well it's not as if I'm a trailblazer, but I think that people
like Eddie and Maria are kind of ghettoized. If it's a Hispanic
story, then they call them in. But if it's an ordinary housewife
or lawyer, then why not Eddie or Maria?
Were you ever at any time pressured to put an Anglo in one
of these roles?
People would've preferred it, because then the film would have
seemed like a more mainstream film. Which I think it is. I have
the advantage of knowing Eddie and Maria, having worked with them.
Out of all the actors I know and have access to, I simply thought
they would be better for the part. Of course there are a lot of
reasons not to choose them with regards to box office draws. Unfortunately,
a lot of casting choices are made with the intention of marketing.
That doesn't always allow room for the best choices to be made.
What special techniques do you utilize when making a film?
One of the things I did with Caught, was to film in chronological
order where as most films aren't. Most everyone in the business
believes this process to be more costly and time consuming, but
we were able to extract deeper performances and take certain scenes
one step further. We also saved a lot of film from ending up on
the editing floor.
What can we expect next?
I have about six scripts that I have right here ready to go. If
you have the financing we can produce them right now. I just spent
my pension fund on this one. It's similar to how I produced my
other movies. I've been very lucky so far. I don't plan on ending
my movie career any time soon. So hopefully there will be more
surprises.
Robert Young's visit and premier showing of Caught was
sponsored by the Taos Talking Picture Film Festival. You can catch
Caught at the Guild Theatre starting Friday, Nov. 16.